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Thu, November 16th, 2023 - 7:00AM
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Fri, November 17th, 2023 - 7:00AM
Forecaster
Jed Workman
Avalanche risk The Bottom Line

A significant storm with heavy precipitation will overload our weak snowpack and result in large natural avalanches today. Avalanches will be very likely on all aspects at the mid to upper elevations by the afternoon.

Overnight we received 11″ of new snow with another 10-14″ forecasted for today, and another 8″ forecasted for this evening into the early hours tomorrow morning. Storm totals could push 30 inches.

The hazard is CONSIDERABLE at mid and upper elevations this morning rising to HIGH by the afternoon. As this storm continues to produce additional precipitation today, the avalanche hazard will increase.

With increasing avalanche hazard, natural avalanches very likely, poor road conditions, and poor visibility, we do not recommend travel in the backcountry today. This is the time to wait out the storm.

Thu, November 16th, 2023
Upper Elevation
Above 3,500'
4 - High
Avalanche risk
Mid Elevation
2,500'-3,500'
4 - High
Avalanche risk
Low Elevation
Below 2,500'
2 - Moderate
Avalanche risk
0 - No Rating
1 - Low
2 - Moderate
3 - Considerable
4 - High
5 - Extreme
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Travel Advice Generally safe avalanche conditions. Watch for unstable snow on isolated terrain features. Heightened avalanche conditions on specific terrain features. Evaluate snow and terrain carefully; identify features of concern. Dangerous avalanche conditions. Careful snowpack evaluation, cautious route-finding, and conservative decision-making essential. Very dangerous avalanche conditions. Travel in avalanche terrain not recommended. Extraordinarily dangerous avalanche conditions. Avoid all avalanche terrain.
Likelihood of Avalanches Natural and human-triggered avalanches unlikely. Natural avalanches unlikely; human-triggered avalanches possible. Natural avalanches possible; human-triggered avalanches likely. Natural avalanches likely; human-triggered avalanches very likely. Natural and human-triggered avalanches certain.
Avalanche Size and Distribution Small avalanches in isolated areas or extreme terrain. Small avalanches in specific areas; or large avalanches in isolated areas. Small avalanches in many areas; or large avalanches in specific areas; or very large avalanches in isolated areas. Large avalanches in many areas; or very large avalanches in specific areas. Very large avalanches in many areas.
Recent Avalanches

The 2023/24 season has started with a bang! There are simply too many avalanches to count. The take home: Each time our basal weak snowpack is loaded it is re-activated resulting in avalanches. This problem will persist and is not going away anytime soon. Below are a few pictures from both the 11/8 storm and the 11/9 wind event, plus the 11/11-12 storm cycle.

Tea Cup

11/11-12 Tea Cup, Natural avalanche. Of note: significant wide propagation indication high continuity in the weak layer = Red Flag

 

11/11-12 Marmot SW Face, Natural avalanches, small to large in size

 

11/11-12 Marmot SW Face, sidewall above the Death Gulley, Large natural avalanches

 

Punk Spines. We think these large natural avalanches which have been covered with newer occurred in the 11/8 storm and 11/9 wind event.

Recent Conditions

NWS AVG Forecast for Hatcher Pass

NWS AVG Forecast for Hatcher Pass

Marmot web cam at 3500′

Avalanche Problem 1
  • Persistent Slabs
    Persistent Slabs
  • Certain
    Very Likely
    Likely
    Possible
    Unlikely
    Likelihood
  • Historic (D4-5)
    Very Large (D3)
    Large (D2)
    Small (D1)
    Size
Persistent Slabs
Persistent Slab avalanches are the release of a cohesive layer of snow (a slab) in the middle to upper snowpack, when the bond to an underlying persistent weak layer breaks. Persistent layers include: surface hoar, depth hoar, near-surface facets, or faceted snow. Persistent weak layers can continue to produce avalanches for days, weeks or even months, making them especially dangerous and tricky. As additional snow and wind events build a thicker slab on top of the persistent weak layer, this avalanche problem may develop into a Deep Persistent Slab.

Likelihood of Avalanches
Terms such as "unlikely", "likely", and "certain" are used to define the scale, with the chance of triggering or observing avalanches increasing as we move up the scale. For our purposes, "Unlikely" means that few avalanches could be triggered in avalanche terrain and natural avalanches are not expected. "Certain" means that humans will be able to trigger avalanches on many slopes, and natural avalanches are expected.

Size of Avalanches
Avalanche size is defined by the largest potential avalanche, or expected range of sizes related to the problem in question. Assigned size is a qualitative estimate based on the destructive classification system and requires specialists to estimate the harm avalanches may cause to hypothetical objects located in the avalanche track (AAA 2016, CAA 2014). Under this schema, "Small" avalanches are not large enough to bury humans and are relatively harmless unless they carry people over cliffs or through trees or rocks. Moving up the scale, avalanches become "Large" enough to bury, injure, or kill people. "Very Large" avalanches may bury or destroy vehicles or houses, and "Historic" avalanches are massive events capable of altering the landscape.

Signal Word Size (D scale) Simple Descriptor
Small 1 Unlikely to bury a person
Large 2 Can bury a person
Very Large 3 Can destroy a house
Historic 4 & 5 Can destroy part or all of a village
More info at Avalanche.org

A widespread poor snowpack structure with weak basal October facets (sugar snow) are the concern. This layer has already failed in previous storm cycles, and will again in the current storm cycle. Avalanches on this layer may take out the whole snowpack, sliding at or near the ground level. Average depths of the snowpack at mid to upper elevations appear to be 12″ to 27″.

Remotely triggered avalanches will be possible. As a reminder, this means it will be possible to trigger an avalanche above you or adjacent to you from the flats below.

Today appears to be the peak of the storm, tapering off tomorrow.

Overnight we picked up 11′ of new snow in 1.5″ of SWE. Additionally, we saw strong winds from the SE capable of transporting available low density snow and loading Northwest to North aspects at upper elevations. That’s a big load for this weak snowpack. But it hasn’t quit yet, and continues to snow, adding even more load onto our weak snowpack. Today NWS is calling for an additional 10-14″ of snow.

This morning we are rating the mid and upper elevations at CONSIDERABLE, which means that natural avalanches are possible and human triggered are likely. However, as this storm continues throughout the day and we see the 10-14″ of snow verify, the avalanche hazard will rise to HIGH this afternoon with natural avalanches likely and human triggered very likely.

At the lower elevations, we are issuing a moderate avalanche hazard. A unique set up with early-season storm patterns favored the mid and upper elevations with snow while leaving the lower elevation snowless. This is why there is a stark difference in the hazard rating. If you get out into the lower elevation you must pay close attention to the runout of slopes from above in the mid and upper elevations which could run into the lower elevations.  

Avalanche Problem 2
  • Storm Slabs
    Storm Slabs
  • Certain
    Very Likely
    Likely
    Possible
    Unlikely
    Likelihood
  • Historic (D4-5)
    Very Large (D3)
    Large (D2)
    Small (D1)
    Size
Storm Slabs
Storm Slab avalanches are the release of a cohesive layer (a slab) of new snow that breaks within new snow or on the old snow surface. Storm-slabs typically last between a few hours and few days (following snowfall). Storm-slabs that form over a persistent weak layer (surface hoar, depth hoar, or near-surface facets) may be termed Persistent Slabs or may develop into Persistent Slabs.

Likelihood of Avalanches
Terms such as "unlikely", "likely", and "certain" are used to define the scale, with the chance of triggering or observing avalanches increasing as we move up the scale. For our purposes, "Unlikely" means that few avalanches could be triggered in avalanche terrain and natural avalanches are not expected. "Certain" means that humans will be able to trigger avalanches on many slopes, and natural avalanches are expected.

Size of Avalanches
Avalanche size is defined by the largest potential avalanche, or expected range of sizes related to the problem in question. Assigned size is a qualitative estimate based on the destructive classification system and requires specialists to estimate the harm avalanches may cause to hypothetical objects located in the avalanche track (AAA 2016, CAA 2014). Under this schema, "Small" avalanches are not large enough to bury humans and are relatively harmless unless they carry people over cliffs or through trees or rocks. Moving up the scale, avalanches become "Large" enough to bury, injure, or kill people. "Very Large" avalanches may bury or destroy vehicles or houses, and "Historic" avalanches are massive events capable of altering the landscape.

Signal Word Size (D scale) Simple Descriptor
Small 1 Unlikely to bury a person
Large 2 Can bury a person
Very Large 3 Can destroy a house
Historic 4 & 5 Can destroy part or all of a village
More info at Avalanche.org

Our primary concern with this storm cycle is the deeper persistent weak layer near the base of the snowpack. However, storm snow avalanches will be just as much of a problem, failing at the new snow / old snow interface. These will be shallower and smaller in size, but still capable of burying, injuring, or killing a person. They will also have the potential to step down to the persistent weak layer, producing larger more dangerous avalanches.

Weather
Thu, November 16th, 2023

NWS AVG Forecast here.

NWS point forecast here.

Marmot Weather Station here.

Independence Mine Snotel here.

Frostbite Bottom Snotel here.

State Parks Snow Report and Motorized Access information here.

XC trail grooming report for Mat-Su, Anchorage, and Kenai here.

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