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Thu, November 24th, 2022 - 7:00AM
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Fri, November 25th, 2022 - 7:00AM
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Jake Kayes
Avalanche risk The Bottom Line

 The snowpack is slowly gaining stability. 

Small to large human-triggered persistent slab avalanches 1-3′ deep are possible in specific locations on Southwest thru Northeast aspects at upper and mid-elevations. Natural avalanches are unlikely. The avalanche danger is low below 2500′.

Triggering an avalanche of any size could have severe consequences due to shallow coverage and rocks. 

There is good snow that can be found in the forecast area. However, riding in terrain traps is not worth the risk. Don’t be fooled by what others get away with.

Starting Thursday evening, the forecast area is expected to receive 3 to 5” of new snow. This new snow could tip the balance and cause avalanche danger to rise. Be on the lookout for shooting cracks and collapsing(whumping).

Thu, November 24th, 2022
Upper Elevation
Above 3,500'
2 - Moderate
Avalanche risk
Mid Elevation
2,500'-3,500'
2 - Moderate
Avalanche risk
Low Elevation
Below 2,500'
1 - Low
Avalanche risk
0 - No Rating
1 - Low
2 - Moderate
3 - Considerable
4 - High
5 - Extreme
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Travel Advice Generally safe avalanche conditions. Watch for unstable snow on isolated terrain features. Heightened avalanche conditions on specific terrain features. Evaluate snow and terrain carefully; identify features of concern. Dangerous avalanche conditions. Careful snowpack evaluation, cautious route-finding, and conservative decision-making essential. Very dangerous avalanche conditions. Travel in avalanche terrain not recommended. Extraordinarily dangerous avalanche conditions. Avoid all avalanche terrain.
Likelihood of Avalanches Natural and human-triggered avalanches unlikely. Natural avalanches unlikely; human-triggered avalanches possible. Natural avalanches possible; human-triggered avalanches likely. Natural avalanches likely; human-triggered avalanches very likely. Natural and human-triggered avalanches certain.
Avalanche Size and Distribution Small avalanches in isolated areas or extreme terrain. Small avalanches in specific areas; or large avalanches in isolated areas. Small avalanches in many areas; or large avalanches in specific areas; or very large avalanches in isolated areas. Large avalanches in many areas; or very large avalanches in specific areas. Very large avalanches in many areas.
Recent Avalanches

The last human triggered avalanche was Nov 19th. No natural avalanches have been observed over the last week. 

Avalanche Problem 1
  • Persistent Slabs
    Persistent Slabs
  • Certain
    Very Likely
    Likely
    Possible
    Unlikely
    Likelihood
  • Historic (D4-5)
    Very Large (D3)
    Large (D2)
    Small (D1)
    Size
Persistent Slabs
Persistent Slab avalanches are the release of a cohesive layer of snow (a slab) in the middle to upper snowpack, when the bond to an underlying persistent weak layer breaks. Persistent layers include: surface hoar, depth hoar, near-surface facets, or faceted snow. Persistent weak layers can continue to produce avalanches for days, weeks or even months, making them especially dangerous and tricky. As additional snow and wind events build a thicker slab on top of the persistent weak layer, this avalanche problem may develop into a Deep Persistent Slab.

Likelihood of Avalanches
Terms such as "unlikely", "likely", and "certain" are used to define the scale, with the chance of triggering or observing avalanches increasing as we move up the scale. For our purposes, "Unlikely" means that few avalanches could be triggered in avalanche terrain and natural avalanches are not expected. "Certain" means that humans will be able to trigger avalanches on many slopes, and natural avalanches are expected.

Size of Avalanches
Avalanche size is defined by the largest potential avalanche, or expected range of sizes related to the problem in question. Assigned size is a qualitative estimate based on the destructive classification system and requires specialists to estimate the harm avalanches may cause to hypothetical objects located in the avalanche track (AAA 2016, CAA 2014). Under this schema, "Small" avalanches are not large enough to bury humans and are relatively harmless unless they carry people over cliffs or through trees or rocks. Moving up the scale, avalanches become "Large" enough to bury, injure, or kill people. "Very Large" avalanches may bury or destroy vehicles or houses, and "Historic" avalanches are massive events capable of altering the landscape.

Signal Word Size (D scale) Simple Descriptor
Small 1 Unlikely to bury a person
Large 2 Can bury a person
Very Large 3 Can destroy a house
Historic 4 & 5 Can destroy part or all of a village
More info at Avalanche.org

Small to large human-triggered avalanches 1-3’ deep are possible on Southwest thru Northeast aspects at upper and mid-elevations, or any area with signs of previous wind loading. Expect deeper and larger avalanches in areas with a thicker snowpack. Remotely triggering an avalanche is possible. These avalanches could be 60 to 100′ wide.

The snowpack has had time to adjust to the snowfall that occurred on 11/13-14. Unseasonably warm temps over the last week have allowed for flaws within the snowpack structure to start healing. Weak sugary faceted snow can still be found at or near the ground. If you find an area with a stiff cohesive slab sitting on weak sugary snow, proceed with caution. This is easy to identify with pole tests.

Skyscraper and Eldorado Bowl are good examples of areas with previous wind loading.

To visually identify areas with previous wind loading look for signs for smooth wind-drifted snow. Pole probes, hand pits, and other traveling tests will help you identify the persistent slab problem. Cracking and collapsing will be red flags for this avalanche problem. Formal stability tests will also help you identify poor structure and poor stability. 

We recommend staying disciplined with your safe travel protocols when on or near avalanche terrain. Tracks on a slope are not a sign of stability.

Many areas have thin shallow snowpack. Rocks, shrubs and other hazards are waiting just below or at the surface.

There is good snow that can be found in the forecast area. However, riding in large terrain traps is not worth the risk. Don’t be fooled by what others get away with.  

  • SPREAD OUT when ascending.
  • Descend ONE at a time and regroup in identified safe zones.
  • Avoid riding above or near cliffs, rocks, gullies or other hazards.
  • As always, carry a transceiver, probe, and shovel, and know how to use them!

Be sure to check out the avalanche forecasts from last week. This season’s archived forecasts have important details on the evolving persistent slab problem.

Weather
Thu, November 24th, 2022

NWS AVG Forecast here.

NWS point forecast here.

Marmot Weather Station here.

Independence Mine Snotel here.

State Parks Snow Report and Motorized Access information here.

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